So was it in the year 2011 that there was a consensus here on this website that 607 was a wrong date? Was in in that year that ex-jws finally pulled the curtain on 607-1914 false dates?
John Aquila
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Londo and his videos!
by John Aquila ini think this month is two years since i saw londos videos on when ancient jerusalem was destroyed.
those videos started the whole awaking process.
by oct 2013 i was fully awake..
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The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s
by truthseeker inhaving just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.
and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.
many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.
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John Aquila
It seems these very sick individuals enjoy watching others suffer and die. Enjoying other peoples trials and unfortunate circumstances is disturbing.
They are sick, they're in a cult.
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Cognitive Dissonance
by LexIsFree inthe cognitive dissonance amongst jws has never been more obvious to me then what i just experience in the last 5 min.
long story short i had a phone conversation w/my mom about some things and i mentioned to her to look up what has been going on with their beloved organization in australia.
brother geoffrey jackson of the holy governing body was caught lying numerous times about several subjects including disassociations & shunning.
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John Aquila
LexIsFree 2 hours ago
@disilussioned 2 I understand how you feel. My parents are in there 60s. At this point I don't even want them to wake up. It's all they know and it would shatter their world. I just want them to acknowledge that this isn't the "truth". It's just another religion. But what does it matter I guess.
I honestly don't believe age has much to do with it. I learn ttatt in my 60s. I think it has to do with a person wanting to know the truth regardless of the outcome. I know people in their 20s that don't want to believe the WT is a false organization. And they won't listen to me talk about 1914, overlapping generation, etc. And I've read many experiences where some in their 70s-80s discovered ttatt. It wasn't easy, but it wast natural for them to accept the truth about the WT. I view it as a person to person thing. To many factors why some will not listen and others will. -
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The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s
by truthseeker inhaving just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.
and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.
many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.
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John Aquila
We had the convention this weekend and many former elders I served had talks in the convention. Most of them are already bald except one elder I grew up with from youth and his hair is all white. He is close to 70 and said in his talk, "Friends, I know we are getting old, but don't despair, very soon we are going to be laughing and the rest of the world is going to be crying in despair when Armageddon finally arrives and everyone will know we had the truth."
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NWT is soooo inaccurate....
by iwasblind inhi this is for the lurkers.. please start reading from another translation and use tools like www.biblehub.com to verify the differences you find.. biblehub has an interlinear and a strongs concordance and heaps of dictionaries and commentaries.. you don't have to be a translator but you can clearly see how the watchtower bible and tract society has changed the bible to devalue jesus, to support their idea of a paradise earth hope for christians and many other false doctrines.. i could never understand why the jw's where attacked when they chose to translate the bible - now i know.. seriously people, there are a lot smarter people than me on this forum and heaps of research.
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don't be afraid of the truth!.
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John Aquila
Strange then, that Jason BeDuhn acknowledges it
Didn't Jason BeDuhn acknowledged the UFO's are real?
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Cognitive Dissonance
by LexIsFree inthe cognitive dissonance amongst jws has never been more obvious to me then what i just experience in the last 5 min.
long story short i had a phone conversation w/my mom about some things and i mentioned to her to look up what has been going on with their beloved organization in australia.
brother geoffrey jackson of the holy governing body was caught lying numerous times about several subjects including disassociations & shunning.
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John Aquila
This Brother Jackson you speak of is probably not an active JW."
That is hilarious! :joy:
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Londo and his videos!
by John Aquila ini think this month is two years since i saw londos videos on when ancient jerusalem was destroyed.
those videos started the whole awaking process.
by oct 2013 i was fully awake..
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I think this month is two years since I saw londo’s videos on “When Ancient Jerusalem Was Destroyed”
Those videos started the whole awaking process. By Oct 2013 I was fully awake.
It seems like 10 or 15 years since I left the WT Organization. I believe the reason being is that so much has changed in two years.
When I left there was;
No JWbroadcasting,
JWdotOrg was just a .
No JWdotOrg flags and emblems
No mobile carts,
No ATM’s at conventions
They were still called conventions
We still had two day assemblies
People would bring their Bibles to the Kingdom Hall
You would get taken to the back and counseled if you brought a IPad to the Hall.
Bethel had not been vacated
There was still District Overseers.
Still had Two meetings during the Circuit Overseer Visit
Had One anointed brother under age 25 in the hall now there is three under 25 years of age.
Sisters could marry a brother that was not a ministerial Servant without being reproached.
There are 10 less young ones in my old Kingdom Hall. Parents are sad they don’t want the tRuTh.
Still had coordinators age 70 and up.
My Kingdom Hall had been paid off for about 25 years and they had a ton of money in the Bank. Now they have a regular payment and it’s an old hall. .
Never heard of the terms “Tight Pants and spandex.
Never seen a GB giving a talk on TV.
Never seen a GB pleading for money on TV. Wow just like a Jimmy Swaggart.
Never seen or imagine something like the Royal Commission exposing all the sexual cover-ups by the WT
Never seen Bethel workers dancing to songs like “Happy” on YouTube.
Never seen an EX-jw YouTube video.
Had no idea what JWSTRUGGLE OR JW SURVEY was.
Didn’t know AJWRB Existed.
I still believed Noah gathered all the animals around the world into an ARK.
Still believed I was living in the last days.
This is what has happened to the organization in just two years.
And none of my friends including my Ex can see this.
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The salvation paradox
by OverlappingGeneralizations inanother thing that has bothered me-.
if the righteous and the unrighteous will be resurrected, and will have the same chance at paradise as the hard-core dubs, what was the point of being hard core?
i know the point used to be "well, armageddon is gonna happen this weekend, and you'll survive and they won't!
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If the righteous AND the unrighteous will be resurrected, and will have the same chance at paradise as the hard-core dubs, what was the point of being hard core?
The real problem was that the Watchtower had every teaching upside down. A person has to tear everything he learned from the WT and start over from scratch.
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The local hall just got fleeced for $15,000!
by My Name is of No Consequence inthe local hall recently sold some property to the state for a road improvement project that is sorely needed.
they received about $20,000.
guess what?
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John Aquila
Don't feel to bad, Wednesday morning I'm taking two elderly sisters to a law office so they can change their Wills. They are removing the Watchtower. I know they had willed their houses which value I estimate at about 100k each. What I didn't know was that one of them had kept a life insurance policy going- that was supposed to go to her children but they died before her. She kept paying it for "Kingdom Interest" or shall we just say it, "The Watchtower"
Now it's going to someone else, 300k
So that's a total of about half a million in property and cash the Watchtower will not get.
That just makes my week.
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Why Me?
by John Aquila indo you ever wonder why out of all the witnesses, you are the one that woke up?
i wonder many times why me.
i know many men and women that are much, much better persons than me; either they are much smarter, more humble, kinder, more successful, or just better persons all around.
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John Aquila
Magnum I had to read you post a couple of times. Man if you could give this as a talk in one of the conventions or better yet in the annual jwtv, a lot of people would leave the Watchtower crying. What a paradox, you have something that can help millions wake up, and yet no opportunity to use it. It's so frustrating. I want to tell all my friends to read your post but I can't.
But I just got an idea, I will memorize it and use it at the next opportunity.